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RD posted jobs on the TorontoJobs.ca website as a paying customer, but TorontoJobs.ca removed their listings after receiving complaints about RD’s business, as per TorontoJobs.ca terms and conditions of companies posting requirements on their website – see http://www.torontojobs.ca/en/html/terms.html.

TorontoJobs.ca is one of the few great websites out there that actually scrutinizes their clients to make sure they are legit positions and responds to all job seeker questions and concerns received to their info@torontojobs.ca email address. They are great and have quick response to my concerns and I would definitely recommend them.

They also don’t have many recruiting firms posting on their site which means that you end up dealing and applying to companies directly instead of through recruiters. Check it out…..they have a great reputation.

If you are using TorontoJobs.CA This company is associated with another company called RDGroup Inc. From current investigation they are using the TorontoJobs site to lure in unwilling victims to get their money in totally useless career counselling sessions. DO NOT use Career Counsellor companies like Haldane or RD Group. They are scammers.

Here is a link to a site that will keep you updated . And Toronto jobs is linked to this. You will see it after you you put your resume on the website.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff239121.htm

This is a great direct site. Do some research ahead of time on the company. GEt the names, phone numbers, email addresses of senior management. Those are the people you approach directly.

Call and followup with an email. Most agency recruiters these days email email email—seldom call. Use the phone, and have a brief summary of yourself ready and prepared.

If you send an email first, highlight your skills in a cover letter(brief), and then call as a quick follow up.

http://www.ontariojobwatcher.ca/jobdirectory/index.vm

The high turnover in the industry speaks volumes. I have already compiled statistics from 1978 to 2002. Working on the next area, and its getting worse, not better.

There is a difference between a recruiter and a headhunter/executive search consultant. Headhunters will call you, and will call those who are working directly.

and i will also be posting a website later which is corporations looking for candidates. This is a direct corporate side not a job board. Despire Mr. Perry, candidates who are serious do not need recruiters. The best ones out there have companies calling them directly!

Companies are tired of being ripped off by recruiting agencies!

I have already sent two complaints to the Human Rights Commission and the Labour Board.

Recruiters are paid a draw. This means they have to make placements in order to make money. By the time they make the placement and the candidate starts his job and gets paid, they are already behind on the draw–which means getting ahead is extremely difficult The owners don’t gives a rats ass. They make the money. The turnover at agencies is high, just look at the ads.

And arsenalist is right — training at these agencies is poor. Most of the companies will pilfer from their clients to place at another client. They have become job board recruiters and don’t even understand how to find quality people, let alone read a resume. If companies actually looked, they would find their candidates come from the job boards in most cases. And these companies pay a hefty commission for it too! Integrity is lacking.

On top of that, here is an example:

You interview at a so called recruitment company. They boast about their integrity, values. You dont even get an email telling you if they were interested in you and would like to proceed further. The funny thing about recruitment companies is that they supposedly are there to find the right candidate for the client, but in reality, their own internal practices are lacking in integrity and the treatment of their employees.

I am writing a book on this industry right now, and will be exposing many of these companies and their business practices.
I would recommend companies discontinue the use of external agencies, hire their own people. And if they are just getting people from job boards, then the dollar investment is not very high.

For those looking for work, do your own work. Do not send your resume to a recruiter. You never now where it will end up. When contacting a company directly, do your homework. You can get the name, email address of the hiring managers you need. Contact them directly. Do not send your cv to a resume@hrcompany. Its a resume dump. Get a name and go for it.